Qualities for a leader

I really don't see the "cockiness" in Kanden. I see that he wants this. How is that a bad thing? If you're going to be the leader of Umbrella, you have to want it, otherwise you're just going to fail.

Trigger, Syn. Someone who's leading Umbrella needs to be able to both communicate and get along with people in the clan, as well as be able to handle DF. I'm sorry, but when it comes down to it, you guys are very very very welcome here, but that's until you start hindering the clan. If you guys become a problem, not saying you guys are right now, but if you guys do, I'm sure your welcome will be worn out.

Now, I know Kanden didn't have a chance of winning because of his being new, but I won't stand by and let him be slammed for this. Both of you don't even have any real say, you guys have zero real interest in DF, except for the odd time. Yes, you both care for this clan, I realize that. Yes, you're both very senior members, my senior even. But that doesn't excuse you both from acting like asshats to the next up-and-comer.

You're both doing what I ended up doing back in the day, being too strung on pride and seniority, thinking that made you allowed to do or say whatever you wanted, that it instantly made you right. Especially you, Syn. Trigger, this is one of the only real times I've seen you act like this, and it was very disappointing. Syn, I've seen you do this around a lot, and it's starting to really upset me. I thought you were both better than this.



tl;dr: I am disappoint.

I think Jarki just hates old people. Whatever happened to respecting your elders!

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Trigger, Syn. Someone who's leading Umbrella needs to be able to both communicate and get along with people in the clan, as well as be able to handle DF. I'm sorry, but when it comes down to it, you guys are very very very welcome here, but that's until you start hindering the clan. If you guys become a problem, not saying you guys are right now, but if you guys do, I'm sure your welcome will be worn out.

I wasn't aware that gauging our new leader's qualifications counted as hindering the clan.

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Now, I know Kanden didn't have a chance of winning because of his being new, but I won't stand by and let him be slammed for this. Both of you don't even have any real say, you guys have zero real interest in DF, except for the odd time. Yes, you both care for this clan, I realize that. Yes, you're both very senior members, my senior even. But that doesn't excuse you both from acting like asshats to the next up-and-comer.

It seems that I look at UC much differently than you do. For a long time now, I haven't even considered it a DF clan.

As idiotic as that statement may seem, please allow me to explain my reasoning.

What really makes a clan? The members, of course. Over UC's long and proud history, we've welcomed dozens upon dozens of new recruits.

But... As can be expected, almost all of them faded away into the depths of inactivity and disinterest. Some even quit to join other clans.

But over the years, a handful of us have remained. A handful of old farts that have formed long and lasting relationships. Every once in awhile a new person decides to stick it out for the long run, but for the most part, UC's group of "regulars" has remained unchanged.

And what do all of these regulars have in common? Well, all but a couple of them...

They've all left DF behind.

If a clan is defined by it's members, and the most dedicated of them don't like DF, then what does that make us? The way I see it, our only business in DF is to attract new members who will inevitably lose interest in it and lurk with us in the chatbox, or follow us off to more interesting games.

As far as I'm concerned, DF is only an important part of the clan because it attracts zombie enthusiasts. However, as a member of UC, I have my own set of opinions regarding how things should be run. These opinions are what influence my thought-process when I look at who's the best guy to run this joint.

To me, a leader must possess three qualities.

1. Be extremely active on the UC website.

2. Have extremely good grammar, to better serve as a figurehead.

3. Have a modicum of DF knowledge, to better attract new members by not running the clan into the ground as far as in-game matters are concerned.

What once was firmly a DF clan has since turned into a hangout site that seeks to attract certain kinds of people by setting up camp in an area full of zombie-lovers.



I apologize for any statements on my part that may have appeared unbecoming, but this is simply how I feel. And I've felt this way for a long time now.

damn trigger, i feel ya man

Wesker wasn't all that active on here until he was leader, then he became active and popular.

And actually, we have a lot more new members than old members. Have you looked around lately? While that statement was true back when I was leader, it isn't anymore. This clan has grown, Trigger. Simply because a small handful of you play Runescape and don't ever play DF, doesn't mean the entire core/most of the members have as well. Most play DF. Hell, even Impy plays DF. Inactives are always like, "Sorry I was so inactive, anyone up for a loot run?" or "Sorry, I'll try to be more active from now on". Not, "Anyone up for a thrilling discussion in the chatbox?"

The core of this clan has expanded. As I said, you've let the seniority somewhat go to your head as to who really is core and who isn't. I did it in the past, and now I can see you all doing it now.

Also, in regards to your first sentence, underneath the first quote.. if you read what you had quoted, you'll see that I said, "not that you're doing it now". Answering your own statement.

damn jarki speaks with her heart


*in love*


lol

Jarki wrote:

Wesker wasn't all that active on here until he was leader, then he became active and popular.

And actually, we have a lot more new members than old members. Have you looked around lately? While that statement was true back when I was leader, it isn't anymore. This clan has grown, Trigger. Simply because a small handful of you play Runescape and don't ever play DF, doesn't mean the entire core/most of the members have as well. Most play DF. Hell, even Impy plays DF. Inactives are always like, "Sorry I was so inactive, anyone up for a loot run?" or "Sorry, I'll try to be more active from now on". Not, "Anyone up for a thrilling discussion in the chatbox?"

The core of this clan has expanded. As I said, you've let the seniority somewhat go to your head as to who really is core and who isn't. I did it in the past, and now I can see you all doing it now.

Most of those new members won't be here a year from now. And those that remain probably won't be very active on DF. It's proven true so far, and I don't see why the trend would change.

Though most of us oldies don't actively play DF anymore, we'll always have a place for it in our hearts. After all, it's how we all met. In fact, I plan to make a new character when I get my laptop. Of course, I'll probably get tired of it in a couple of weeks.

And I don't really feel as if I'm flaunting my seniority. It's not like I'm trying to bump myself up as the new leader, nor am I saying, "Hey, listen to me because I've been here longer." I'm just speaking my mind. And my mind reflects the things I've experienced during my long stay here.

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Also, in regards to your first sentence, underneath the first quote.. if you read what you had quoted, you'll see that I said, "not that you're doing it now". Answering your own statement.

Why say something if you're just going to turn around in the next paragraph and make it a pointless statement?

Again, read the paragraph. It was mainly oriented towards Syn.

It doesn't really matter if they won't be here a year from now. It's that sort of mindset that makes them unable to stay for a year.

While you may have a place for it in your hearts, you don't have a real hold on the game. It's like saying that since you played TF2 forever ago, it doesn't matter how much the game's changed, you still know exactly what the game's like. If you don't know what DF is currently like, then you can't accurately judge situations which fall under DF's wing.

I'm not stating that you're flaunting your seniority. I said it's going to your head. It's a false "wisdom" sort of thing. You seem to believe that because you've been here for a long time, seen everything Umbrella has gone through, that you think this is what's going to happen. This being some random variable event. What I see in most of your actual points against Kanden are that he hasn't been here a long time, which is a valid reason, and that he is 13, which I find a stupid reason, but still, it's valid in a sense. The rest of everyone's reasoning seems to have no basis or reasoning. It's simply the denial of change. The assumption that since you've been here a while, you know that things just won't work out in his hands.

It's much better to say "I think Hellblaze should be leader because..." and leave any reasoning about Kanden out, than to be like, "Kanden shouldn't be leader because..." and insert reasons that have no basis.

Since my name was in the same sentence, I had to contest it.

Actually, I have a good idea of what DF is like. It's only been a month and a half since I last played actively, and I still lurk the forums.

If first-hand experience and time-tested assumptions aren't a good basis for decision-making, then I don't know what is. It's not like anything is set in stone. There's no chart of facts for us to consult. What I've seen tells me that Kanden wouldn't be the best choice, and what I've seen is what I have to go on. Meanwhile, these same things I've seen tells me that Hellblaze would be more likely to succeed, and Bucky might possibly be even better.

Does this mean Kanden couldn't turn around and be the best leader ever? Of course not. But I prefer to err on the side with the greatest percentage of success.

I see what you mean, but I don't agree. But I can't really counterpoint any of that, so, I guess I'll leave it at that. XD

TRIGGER!!!

GET OFF THE INTERNET BEFORE YOU GO OVER YOUR LEFTOVER MINUTES! D:

I was being nice to the kid til he begged for the truth. He asked for it and I gave it to him. I sincerely doubt voting against Kanden and saying "hey, no, you can't be leader" is hindering the clan. Hindering the clan is posting random stupid stuff without voting for someone else. I voted for Blaze and not Kanden. And Kanden continued to whine about it. He deserves what he gets.

In a side note,

I'M ANCIENT AND OLD AND BEEN HERE FOREVA AND WHAT I SAY GOES CAUSE I ANCIENT. I CAN SAY WHATEV I WANT CAUSE I COOL YO. AND ANCIENT. HECK YA MAN THIS BREEZE FEELS GOOD.

Having said that, I can say what's really on my mind. I like walruses.

Just as a side note, I feel that Syn shouldn't have gotten a vote.

I shouldn't either, even though I didn't vote.

Really none of us RS players should have voted. I hardly know any of the candidates, but if I could turn back time I would probably vote for Kanden just because I talked to him yesterday and he seemed cool. Do I know he's fit for the job? No. Exactly why I shouldn't vote, I'd probably just choose who I like the most.

You've a history of causing problems within the clan, Syn. Is what I'm saying.

Every single one of the leaders still play RS or have played RS before. Why wouldn't RS players get a vote?

And even though what I say may cause problems, I end up being right down the road anyway. I was right about Dai. I was right about Saria. I was right about Gahsters. Who knows, maybe if Kanden were leader he would have messed up our crap down the road.

And look, I was the first one who hated that Mikhail kid. Now he's almost universally disliked. Maybe I'm onto something here.

RS player's shouldn't get a vote because the leader isn't controlling a RS clan. He's controlling a DF clan.

And we don't know shit about who the potential leaders are.

Get what I'm saying?

Dood, you're kinda right. XD
You always do seem to know...

But Kanden's a good kid. He isn't like the rest.

Also, wow, you're right. Even I played RS at one point.

I have nothing against Kanden. He seemed to have a descent head on him for being 13, as I said before.

I didnt really find anything wrong with kanden, i just thought HB was a better choice.

OH CRAP! SYN'S FUTURE TELLING POWER LEVEL IT'S...IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!

*These are the kind of post i make at 5 AM with no sleep, coffee or other source of energy boost*

WHAT!? 9000!?

Jarki wrote:

You've a history of causing problems within the clan, Syn. Is what I'm saying.

Speak for yourself, Jarki. Two wars and Saria?

Luv you.

Saria ended with me banning her. That was Saria, not me. Her causing problems, not I.

The wars were not solely me. There was Pengy and Nicolai and others who all took part in arranging for it. Quite a few people.

kthnxbai.

Also, wat. Two wars? Only one as far as I can remember.

I only actually have one thing that made me want to beat Kanden.

He wouldn't have made a good leader to me not because of his age, but because of his in-game age. He has been here for a month or so. I don't have 100 percent trust in him yet. I personally don't talk to him to much and there fore don't know him to the extent I could. This hindered me wanting him as leader whatsoever.

Catalyst wrote:

Jarki wrote:

You've a history of causing problems within the clan, Syn. Is what I'm saying.

Speak for yourself, Jarki. Two wars and Saria?

Luv you.

Did... Did... Did Jen just kind of defend me right there?

I'm touched...