Recommendations for improved functionality as an Organized DF Clan Website: THE IMAGE GUIDE

The only difference is my rants was that I wanted us to become more open to hosting a larger fanbase in general. Not only Dead Frontier Members.

A lot of people that visit this site don't play DF and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like to be undermined in a movement to go back towards a DF clan.

But at least your not whipping out the: "Every member HAS to play DF unless they want to be banned!"

When worlds collide is obviously the best Powerman 5000 song.


And I do need to clear up the old members. They're kinda stacking up.


I've done a mod/admin check. People lost theirs. The site kicked Jarki back into admin, after I removed her. So, either Jarki is a master at CSS and HTML, and hard coded herself into the site, or a bug happened. Either way, I'll remove her some time in the future. Maybe a few months.


Nicolai/Hunk is the head admin. He can't be taken from that position, as he made the site.


When you highlighted groups, I have no idea what you want me to do with them.


@Havoc

I agree with you, to an extent. I think we should be more open to other games. We'll get more members that way, and possibly the new recruits will join/play DF on a semi-regular basis.

I mean, I hate Maplestory but I downloaded it that one time to play with Trig and Havoc. Why? They're fun to play with.

Not to mention Maplestory has now become a browser game so all your required to download is a very small patch.

I can't play games in my browser. Except Urban Dead, browser games crash my Firefox.

Try google chrome?

Pest02 wrote:

When you highlighted groups, I have no idea what you want me to do with them.

Removal was my suggestion... Apologies.

I didn't really "Want" you to do anything. You'll see why when I wake up from the nap I'm about to take.

This thread is just a reference of suggestions for if we ever head into the "Hardcore DF clan" direction.

Well, Non-DF members is never leaving the clan, and former leaders deserve to be recognized thus Mad Science. Ambassador will be useful if we ever get any.

Jarkwee was a gift from Jen to Jarki.

Trigger has the best rp's, and deserves some recognition.

I managed to save most if not all of the member's list of names, I plan on making a
sort of memorial stone, so we can remember those who have come and gone, and
maybe a place for members "missing in action", for those who post often but not a lot.

In reality there should only be like 3 admins tops and like 5mods, like this change suggests, so im all for it.

I mean we had 5 admis and 5 mods at one time and really no one did well much of anything. And after this change is made there should be NO MORE admins added UNLESS an admin leaves. I mean you can do everything you need as a mod and without being an admin.

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As for the Umbrella Personel usergroup, while i was Military Leader and a Moderator i frequently checked that group and kicked people out. I always thought it was part of the job as a lead position and a mod "just to do it," instead of argueing about why no one has filtered out the dead members yet

I'd do it now but i barely have any DF time these days to know whos in and whos out these days, but manageing stuff here on the sidelines i can handle. usually during my 30 minutes - an 2 hour on internet time i have here i find at least 15 minutes or more for this site

So the plan is to cut the mods who have been here for over 2 years, but let the ones from DF stay.

To be perfectly honest, all we need are two Admins and a handful of chat mods. At least until we have about four times as many members as we do now.

Otherwise, I see no reason to change. We've managed to not start any fires we couldn't easily put out.

I wanted only 5 admins, or actually 4. Two site admins, and two DF admins. Nicolai is the site admin.

I'll happily make DF leaders admins without the admin panel, if people would tell me who they are.

Also, the mod team is pretty diverse. I've almost completely left the petty mod things for them to handle, and they've failed horribly. Good enough.

If you want to make the DF mods separate, I'll make Site Admins and DF Admins groups. Sorry Havoc, but I don't want another incident like yours happening again.

Hopefully, I will soon leave for the National Guard. Birk is (hopefully) learning more about the admin panel, as I want him to take my place of failing to add awesome features.

All of the above mentioned will leave the admin team at...one?, if you all vote Jarki off the island.

*Raises hand*

I am a DF leader, and I know how to use a forum admin panel, no accidents will happen.

You're the Co-leader, yes.

well i've rarly ever seen any moderators doing anything anyways Z 1. Not really much to do, i catch maybe 1 or 2 things every two weeks and i always add

DEK: whatever your malfunction is fix it

to the post so people know im doing my job and who they got corrected by


We nessessarily dont need DF to be seperate, but why dont you actually make USE of usergroups. I mean theres always some crap like mushroom council or triggazar or some other thing thats an exclusive that serves no purpose. Why dont you just get rid of the crap usergroups (no offense to those in it) and make one for the people who been here a long time like Z 1 and trigger, give them their special color so they stand out, but it has no mod purposes...

I mean shit people see nothing but mods on here talking and no players..

Edit: in essence create a crap usergroup for the elite and let that be the last of it (for awhile)

Question: When did we want to be an organized, functional, serious, elite clan again?

XD

Oh, and, I's more active than Raiden, DEK, Dalton, and Kanden. x3

But in the end, looks like Havoc rant with a different direction.

As I told Havoc, don't make the same mistake I did.

Joyki wrote:

Question: When did we want to be an organized, functional, serious, elite clan again?

XD

Oh, and, I's more active than Raiden, DEK, Dalton, and Kanden. x3

But in the end, looks like Havoc rant with a different direction.

As I told Havoc, don't make the same mistake I did.

I don't think we do. Once again, this is merely a reference for IF Umbrella ever decides that it wants to move in that direction, which, in addition to many other things, makes this different from a Havoc Rant.

I'd be more than happy to make the same mistake you did. It would force me to actually implement the things I've learned, even though it would be out of shame/other negative emotion.

Pest02 wrote:

If you want to make the DF mods separate, I'll make Site Admins and DF Admins groups. Sorry Havoc, but I don't want another incident like yours happening again.

*grumbles about having a better knowledge of the admin panel than most of the current admins*

Surely you can't say there would be another incident after the massive discussions we have had over the deletion of the roleplay section was an accident (not only did we lose UC RP, we also lost Havoc's love: Living In Hell.). As for the rest we have also discussed that I, along with a lot of other members thought that a forum wipe was the best course of action in a hellhole of a tip in UC's history.

In all seriousness though, if I was ever given power again the truth is I would do exactly what I did last time I was admin. Sit on my throne and use my abilities in little bitty ways to show off to others that I have more power then them. This, and the fact I want a radical change in direction for the clan's focus, is why I believe I am not a good candidate for an admin. NOT because I destroyed the site at one point in my life.



My side on Jarki being an admin:

Jarki is a very cool individual in the clan who at one time was figurehead in our high level DF players. She has done a lot for this clan over the past years and has stayed with the clan longer then most who visit the website currently.

Problematically, unless memory serves me wrong, Jarki has taken control of, or either recreated, the Black Dragons making her a member of that DF clan.

I see Jarki as having slight more power on the site then the average member but not as much as an admin has (perhaps a special made moderator?) since she is the leader of a hopefully ally clan in DF but NOT a leader (nor even member) of the UC clan voiding her from being an admin.

This is only my opinion if we are heading down the road to being a slightly more serious clan than we are currently in DF. I, however, can't stress enough how much this will divide our clan in two (As it has been attempted in the past). Fallowing the steps I have pointed out in multiple areas of the site (now known as Havoc's Plan) will, at least I believe, take us into an opposite direction were we are getting the amount of player intake we would like to see but at the same time not focusing us on any one game so that the members who have been here FAR longer then the current players of DF aren't cast aside as worthless because they have decided they don't like the game nor the direction it is heading in. (Since the clan was originally made before the game ever came out I think it is fair that the oldest of members be giving the option to either like or dislike the game while at the same time never having their powers threatened)

*grumbles and ends his rant*

eh its shes in a different clan but shes still more then welcom in umbrella, like myself (consultant) i just cant play everyday like i used to but i can still contribute here. Hopefully when i buy ANOTHER new laptop ican play more since i wont have this 30 minute restriction time

Joyki wrote:

Question: When did we want to be an organized, functional, serious, elite clan again?.

I want more organization and a little more functionality out of the clan. The seriousness
and eliteness, not so much. I do want to get our clan back to form on DF if possible, but
as it is I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this. I just don't wanna do a lot of work
only to have it become obsolete when the clan system comes out.

BD is on hiatus. In other words, isn't counted as a clan. And if I recall, I was second-in-command of BD and also leader of Umbrella at the same time at one point. XD!

Now I agree with Umbrella being more functional and organized, but in the past, every time we've tried to do it it just... ends up sloppy and causing a big mess we all have to clean up. >.>

Hence why I think it's a bad idea.

Yea I can kinda tell that at the moment. x.X Theres a lot I need to work on but I
can't seem to focus on a single thing. With the reformation of positions, I wanted to
put some of lesser important things that need to be done in the hands of sub-leaders,
with ranks being a separate thing all together. It might take me a bit, but I'll get this
stuff worked out, assuming no one can give me a hand.

well it worked very well while i played, though i admit it was alot of my free time gone. I had fun non the less

I'm trying to work it around so that a lot of free time need not be applied to make things
work. Perhaps I should put the ranking thing in the back seat for now, focus on the positions
and work on things as needed.