New Ranking System for DF Umbrella

lol. She always sticks with her opinion.

Imp wrote:

Trigger wrote:

1. Leader
2. Co-leader(s)
3. Worthless Minions
4. Sexpit Employees

fix't.

In my reign, the ranking system was as follows:

1. Supreme Leader
2. Co-Leaders
3. People I like
4. Z1
5. Syn

6. People I do not like

People in Rank 6 usually die.

So, is there any finished ranking system? I'd be happy to implement it, but I haven't been following this thread as much as I should be.

I'm guilty as well. I didn't want to add fuel to the argument. Both the PVP'ers and the
Looters are vital to Umbrella, but I don't think we should give much power to whom isn't
responsible with it.

1. CEO - Wesker-X
2. Executive - Birkin
3. UBCS General - Demon Eyes Kyo
4. Chairman - Dalton217
5. USS
6. UBCS Alpha Squad
7. Supervisor
8. UBCS Bravo Squad
9. Researcher
10. Representative
11. Employee

Seems to be the agreed format, though i still think might is right.
Also i made Chairman out to be an real ambassador type along with watching over economics section so i dont know what to do about maddjoker93.

hm

Too many unnecessary ranks.

Should do...

USS
Supervisor
UBCS


not split them into two.

Here's how I think the chain of command should look.



1. Trainees = Candidates under level 25, and anyone else who has yet to prove himself worthy of membership.

2. UBCS Soldiers = Combat specialists with some degree of skill in PvP. They serve as the main fighting force in any confrontation.

3. Employees = Looters, and anyone without much interest in PvP. They serve to keep Umbrella's coffers filled.

4. UBCS Commando = Elite soldiers that have proven their lethality in battle.

5. Ambassador = Selected from either the UBCS Commandos, or Management. This person must display adequate grammar, intelligence, and people-skills.

6. Management = Distinguished employees that have proven their worth through extended loyal service.

7. VP = Co-leader.

8. President and CEO = Leader.

Much simpler o.o

It still provides some (though little) room to improve, while simple and little to no empty ranks.

Eh my format made made for stat wise, so that way people at a certain level are not left out of a rank they are aiming for due to diplomacy.

I know i;ve been in 4 other clans outside of DF and one of the things that annoyed me most was being underranked for my contributions. Such as getting certain stat requirments and being left out of the group cause of my social stability in the clan.



in my previous experiances, the more interesting the clan + the complexness of ranks, has equaled sucess. Members need to be inspired to reach the ranks rather be handed out at random.

Even though we dont have the numbers of members to fit all ranks thats what makes it a sucess is lower member aim for higher spots and new members can see where they will fit in based on their type of gameplay.

I still like my:

Leader
Co-leaders
Everyone else


Simple, no room for improvement, so no pressure. Communism works.

Kyo, yours would be perfect if we had more people.

Triggers is perfect for the amount of players we have now.

I think we should go with Triggers for now, and once we reach a higher quantity of members, upgrade to DEK's.

My thoughts exactly. We're just too itty bittles at the moment!

-_-

so this whole debate was crushed in a single post.

In which case i would like changes made
1. President - wesker
2. Executive - birkin
3. UBCS General - demon eyes kyo
4. Economic Chairman - dalton217
5. Representative - maddjoker93
6. USS Agent - level 50+ PvP players
7. Researcher - level 40+ economic players
8. UBCS Commando - level 30-49 PvP players
9. Employee - 25-39 Economic players

5 officer rankings 4 employee rankings, simple. We already have the top five ranks currently lets just leave em as is but with name changes. Name changes were done as followed.


Leader > President: Yup this guy runs this shit, and president is a better title. Anyone can make a clan with "leader" as the top rank

Co-Leader > Executive: Same as above co-leader is like in 90% of clans. Executive sounds better. When this Executive visits your branch for evaluations, you better have your division running smoothly.

Economic Leader > Economic Chairman: Same with leader, played out a bit. Chairman gives is a commanding tone. The Chairman handles all the finaces of the economic wing.

Ambassador > Representative: As with the ohter 80% of clans have an "ambassador." We're a corporations people, we dont have ambassadors thats for governments, we have Representatives. This guys shows up at foreign buisness centers with a suitcase, cellphone and deal.

UBCS Commando > USS (Umbrella Security Service) Agent: The whole commando thing is played out and technically all the UBCS are commandos. The USS are the highly distinguished soldiers that carry out all the operations not ment to be seen in the public eye (check the resident evil two game, when they attempt to steal the G-Virus from William Birkin)

Employee > Researcher: All members could be considered employees even trainees are still employed by companies in the real world. Researcher is a more distinguished rank name for our corporation.

UBCS Soldier > Commando: as said before all UBCS are considered comandos not soldiers

Trainee > Employee: As above, the basic ground rank should be employee. No one likes to say they are a trainee.

Well i decided i'd make a rank tree myself.

It may look confusing but its really not. Red lines show who has rank over what. Green lines show possible promotion routes.

Examples:
1. An employee can become a researcher or switch over to UBCS Commando
2. A UBCS Commando can either become a USS Agent, switch over to Researcher, or if they dont have the requirements for researcher go to Employee
3. To be the Representative you either have to be a Researcher or USS Agent first.
4. In the event a new Executive is needed the new one will either come from the UBCS General or Economic Chairman.
5. In the event a new Economic Chairman or UBCS General is needed the new one can come from either the Representative or another member under their respective chain of command.

You have far too many ranks that consist of only a single member. Considering we never have more than about ten TRULY active members at once, your ranking system threatens to become top-heavy. It's like having three generals and two colonels barking orders at seven grunts.

Also, I find it weird that you would start out as UBCS, then via promotion, leave the UBCS to join the USS, only to return to the UBCS during your next promotion. Consider changing "USS Agent" to something that has to do with the UBCS.

-_- you dont get it really do you trig.

The leader and co-leader now do alot of different things at once. The eco leader now lightens their load by making sure members get thier looting in for the clan. I manage looking for umbrella impersonator clans and handle a majority of the combat situations that arise. Ambassador is someone who is good at multi claning and can keep in the loop with our allies. The leader and co leader do a little of each as it is but they dont have to work so hard constantly on the clan and can actually play the game without worrying so much.

An Ambassador is just a member whos a diplomat that doesnt really belong to either group. As such he doesnt lead anything but doesn't have the same chain of command as the 4 lower ranks.

And no members dont start as UBCS Comando UNLESS they join above lvl 30 and fit the pvp requirements. But players do stat resets which can put them into a new bracket for ranks. example a lvl 42 researcher does a stat reset to a USAN gves himself 80 endurance. He's more a PvP fighter now and can go into the military section as a Commando and a USS Agent when he hits level 50.

The only ranks the 97% of members will be is the bottom 4, the top 5 a members who've gone above and beyond and given a comand position.

A USS Agent cant become an employee cause he's lvl 50 to be an agent in the first place. the only thing he can switch over to is a Resercher since those are lvl 40 and up non pvp builds.

Consider judgning by this forum we have at lest 15 active members CURRENTLY. thats 5 officers and 10 other member for the 4 lower ranks. trust me if you watch the Umbrella DF forum you'd see this all works out very nice.

Also dont be a hipocrite, first you say it was too many now you say its not enough

Firstly, this forum is NOT a good indicator of how many active members we have in DF. Most of the people you find around here don't play anymore. During my two years in Umbrella, I never found more than a dozen people that actually played on an active basis. I've watched our DF forum for quite a while as well... It consists of you, Birkin, Wesker, a few other active folks, and a handful of random people that come and go.

Secondly, I said that there were TOO MANY ranks and NOT ENOUGH people... Not the same thing. Watch who you call a hypocrite.

No, I think it's you who doesn't understand. This clan, despite being named after a huge and complicated commercial organization, is NOT a huge and complicated commercial organization. Simplicity has been our best friend since The Great Rift of 2008.

Honestly, we should just take Pest's advice, and stick to our traditional system. It's really quite sexy. There's no need to wave around pretty titles in a doomed attempt to fabricate the appearance of true organizational functionality.

Nothing will change.

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Trigger's, then DEK's?

Ranks add interest to the clan, interest in the clan brings new members, new members brings new opportunities. A clan with only two or three ranks thats not too enticing. People wanna look and be like "wow so this is how it works. Cool i could be a resercher if i joined today." A small clan system may be good, for the few dedicated members which number in about a handful. We're a great group of people but no one joins us cause besides us posting our normal nonsense, our front page is dead as hell and boring a mud to look at. People who only see like 4 ranks thinks that either the clan is dead or the leader is a sociopath.

my system isnt huge at all. We have the "managment" people you talked about. Me, dalton, and joker. Only difference is instead of a generic name their title shows what their main task is. As for the other four ranks you said keep it small so i did

Economic
lvl's 25 - 39 employee: basic PvE builds and the bulk of the clan.
lvl's 40+ researcher: a higher rank for PvE builds that gives members something to work at.

Military
lvl's 30 - 49 commando: For basic PvP builds, people who can fight when needed.
lvl's 50+ USS Agent: for PvP builds that have worked harder then the bulk of the military.

Sure 1 rank fits all works, if this was communist russia (its a joke dont get serious). Players that work harder then others deserve to have a rank that shows it.


Honestly i'd redo the whole front page if i could but i cant but the least we can do is make our ranking system a little more appealing. So what if we dont have a player for each rank, thats the great thing about it, if we have no USS at the moment, then someone can work at and brag to the clan they were the first USS member to reach it.

To be quite honest, I'm not entirely sure why I'm arguing this point at all. It's not like I'm still an active DF player at the moment, so it affects me very little. As long as favoritism is avoided, and it's always the most deserving person (not necessarily the highest level or oldest member) that holds a rank, then everything will go fine.

And yes, I agree. The first page lacks sexiness.

Alright. Let's see how these ranks work out. In the near future, I'll draw up another, more detailed/efficient ranking list than my last one for your consideration. I figure the more options we have to look at, the better off we are.

so we're agreed at giving mine a try then trig?

I think as long as it's the smaller of the two of yours. XD

Also, many ranks with one member or no members in it, doesn't cause interest, it causes the appearance of an empty clan.