Pokemon!

i want to repick my pokemon since i got stuck as Magmar (not a bad hoice though) and i know theres a rename guy somewhere

Either want:
Sneasel
Espeon
Flareon
Scyther

Your choice but i'd prefer Scyther or Flareon ;)

Scyther it is. He happens to be my favorite anyway

Also, you can't rename pokemon who have been traded over from a different game.

scyther / demon - makes perfect sense ;) i should rellay work on my slver game, but im foing for top PvP this week so dont expect me on here as much

Hurray i just beat the Elite Four in Silver (old version)

did it with
lvl 44 Vulpix ( my fav pokemon )
lvl 45 Scyther ( Because its a fucking Scyther )
lvl 45 Kadabra ( Ace in the hole )
lvl 50 Feraligator ( Mr. Muscle )
lvl 34 Flaffy ( paralyze foes )
lvl 40 Lugia ( typically i dont use legendary pokemon but he made a good PP sink for lances hyperbeams using Recover )

I'd have used my Umbreon but his lvl isnt up to snuff yet, and Espeon is worst. No stones for my other 3 eevees yet

I polished off the Elite Four in SS a few days ago. It was fucking brutal!

*twitch* I can't remember for the old silver, but in this version, Lance's team consists of
Gyarados, Charizard, Aerodactyl and 3 fucking Dragonites that seem to be able to take
a godly amount of damage to kill.

It wouldn't have been a big problem, if not for the fact that I could only grind on level 30
to 35 pokemon along Victory Road, when most of my pokemon were 10 levels higher than
them.

Unlike the old version, where trainers typically call you for rematches, you have to call them
in this version to initiate the re-match. Sure you might have some trainers call you asking for
a rematch, but you only get a hand full to choose from on a daily basis. Sometimes you have to
call multiple freaking times to get the re-match to go through.

Then there's the TM's. Normally you can find some pretty useful TM's during your journey. You
normally get a lot of the good stuff before you reach the Elite Four, not so in soul silver. You
might be able to get three or four good ones if you're willing to go out of your way to find them,
but otherwise you're going to have a hard time without them. I couldn't get Earthquake or Sludge
Bomb until after beating the last gym because I needed to use Waterfall outside of battle.

I'm now in Kanto, going through the original eight leaders. I've already beaten Lt. Surge and
Erika, and trying to find out where the 'ef Misty is. I keep hearing about some accident at the
power plant, so I'm heading there to take a look.

Isn't the accident at the power plant Zapdos?

Nah, it was the foreign rocket who steals a piece from the plant's generator. Lawl, he still
uses broken Engrish, too. Yea, I'm down to the 7`th gym now.

In the original red/blue/yellow it was Zapdos.

Zapdos is still a fag.

Giovanni's your real dad.

Trigger wrote:

Giovanni's your real dad.

Actually....

Spoiler:

W.Birkin wrote:

I polished off the Elite Four in SS a few days ago. It was fucking brutal!

*twitch* I can't remember for the old silver, but in this version, Lance's team consists of
Gyarados, Charizard, Aerodactyl and 3 fucking Dragonites that seem to be able to take
a godly amount of damage to kill.

Then there's the TM's. Normally you can find some pretty useful TM's during your journey. You
normally get a lot of the good stuff before you reach the Elite Four, not so in soul silver. You
might be able to get three or four good ones if you're willing to go out of your way to find them,
but otherwise you're going to have a hard time without them. I couldn't get Earthquake or Sludge
Bomb until after beating the last gym because I needed to use Waterfall outside of battle.

I'm now in Kanto, going through the original eight leaders. I've already beaten Lt. Surge and
Erika, and trying to find out where the 'ef Misty is. I keep hearing about some accident at the
power plant, so I'm heading there to take a look.

Lance is the same n the old version and is still a bastard, which is why i broke my no legendary pokemon rule and brought Lugia around for the final battle. Recover helps with draining his Dragonites Hyper Beam attacks, which usually blows the shit outa your pokemon. But once that problem was taken care of Feraligator evend the match up. I spen the time in the casion to get TM 14 i believe, which had Blizzard and gave it to Feraligator. Ice whoops the shit outta dragons its just those damn Hyperbeams with Dragonites speed that killed my Ferry before he could land a solid hit.

When it comes to TM's i tend to hold em all till I reach the 8th gym in Kanto (where i am now). Only ones i know for sure where i want them to go is Fury Cutter and Steel Wing which go on Scyther.
A Scyther with:
Steel Wing - metal
Wing Attack - flying
Fury Cutter - bug
Swords Dance - 2x attack power
Will rape almost anything besides a solid Fire type.

I'm working out how i want to make my eevee lineup now. I try to blend them as best as i can with as many different types as possible. Only thing that silver sucks with badly is the serious lack of evolution stones. Luckily i get 1 for each eevee and a left over leaf stone for grass which i dont use and replace with Scyther instead.

As for Misty and the machine problem go north of Celadon, after going in the Celadon Gym. If Soul is like the oldschool (whih according to Lance it is) that should trigger both events in the north by Bill's old house.

I think you mean Cerulean, Celedon's in the mid-west.

In either case, I took care of the power plant issue and I'm trying to remember where Blaine
is. I think he's hiding out in the Seafoam Islands. Bleh.

Oh and Kyo. Lance's Dragonite's wouldn't have been a problem if all they used was their
Hyper Beam attacks, most of my pokemon have decent physical defense. No, these fuckers
were using a new toy called Dragon Rush. It's got 150 base damage, plus whatever modifiers
they get for STAB, and can cause flinching. Their only draw back is a 75 Accuracy, not that
it helped me any. They hit me EVERY time they used that attack. Every time. IT was bullshit.
My team always got a OTK from that thing.

lol yea cerulean, dam things look the same on map.

Anyways figured out what i'd do for my eevee line up

Vaporeon - Poison, freeze, then up defence
1. Hydro Pump - water
2. Acid Armor
3. Toxic - poison
4. Blizzard - ice

Jolteon - break S. Defence with shadow ball, blast with thunder
1. Bite - dark
2. Pin Missile - bug
3. Thunder - elec
4. Shadow Ball - dark

Flareon - use on weak physical defence and grass, bugs
1. Flamethrower - fire
2. Iron Tail - metal
3. Mud Slap - ground
4. Fire Blast - fire

Espeon - special attack galore
1. Psychic - psy
2. Psybeam - psy
3. Zap Cannon - elec
4. Hyperbeam - norm

Umbreon - confuse, lower S. Defece with psychic then hidden power. faint attack for fly/dig pokemon
1. Faint attack - dark
2. Confuse Ray - ghost
3. Psychic - psy
4. Hidden Power - dark*

All thats left to decide is the 6th pokemonand i'm leaning on scyther for the previous setup above.

Hey Kyo, here's an alternate team you might like

Demon Eyes Kyo wrote:

Vaporeon - Poison, freeze, then up defence
1. Waterfall - water / Ice Beam - ice
2. Acid Armor -psn / Toxic - psn / Rest - psy
3. Rain Dance - water/ Substitute - nrm
4. Baton Pass - nrm

I know it's not as appealing as the offensive Vaporeon, but it's
meant to be a support pokemon. You use toxic to weak your
opponent, or Acid Armor to increase your defense, then Rain
Dance before passing out into Jolteon. Only use Rain Dance
if Jolteon has Thunder, otherwise go with one of the other
moves. Thunder hits 100% when coupled with Rain Dance.

Jolteon - break S. Defence with shadow ball, blast with thunder
1. Bite - dark / Shadow Ball - ghost
2. Pin Missile - bug / Double Kick - fght (if it exists) / Iron Tail - stl
3. Thunder / Thunderbolt - elec
4. Thunder Wave - elec / Toxic - psn / Rain Dance - water / Mudslap - grnd

The odd thing is, Jolteon was mostly used as the Baton Passer back
in the day, using Thunderwave/Toxic to annoy the opponent before
passing on to another pokemon to finish the job. But I went with your
offensive Jolteon. Dark-type moves like Bite are only effective against
Psychic types, though it might be effective against ghost, too. Ghost is
only effective against Psychic and other ghosts. So you don't really
need both of them unless you got no other alternatives. Pin Missile is
great, it deals STAB against psychic, grass and dark types, but it's
still a weak move. Double Kick isn't much better, but can deal damage
to rock, steel and dark types, so you got diversity. Again, use Thunder
if you have a Rain Dance support, otherwise go with Thunderbolt for
accuracy. The 4`th slot should be for a support move. Thunder Wave
offers instant paralysis, toxic deals poison, Rain Dance sets up Thunder,
and Mudslap deals a bit of damage and lowers accuracy.


Flareon - use on weak physical defence and grass, bugs
1. Flamethrower - fire
2. Iron Tail - metal
3. Mud Slap - ground
4. Fire Blast - fire

Sadly there's not all that much that can be done to actually improve Flareon.
He suffers from a bland move pool and not a whole lot of diverse TM/HM choices.
My only suggestion would be giving him Return or Hidden Power on the off chance
that It'd be a favored type.


Espeon - special attack galore
1. Psychic - psy
2. Sunny Day - Fire
3. Calm Mind - psy / Zap Cannon - elec
4. Morning Sun - nrm

You'll definitely want to have Sunny Day and morning sun on your Espeon. It's a no
brainer. Morning Sun heals Espeon depending on the weather condition, if it's sunny,
you're gonna heal more HP. If you want a special sweeper, go with calm mind over
Zap Cannon. 3 calm minds, combined with Psychic will wipe out just about anything.


Umbreon - confuse, lower S. Defece with psychic then hidden power. faint attack for fly/dig pokemon
1. Mean Look - Nrm
2. Baton Pass - nrm
3. Toxic - psn
4. Moonlight - nrm / Rest - psy

Sadly, out of all the first and second gen (maybe even the 4`th gen) eevelutions,
Umbreon is the least effective in physical combat. His attack stats are pathetic, and
it's the main reason he's used as the Baton Passer. Use Mean Look to trap your
opponent, then use Toxic, and from there, do your best to keep yourself healed.
Baton Pass only if necessary

eh i dont battle with other players just the computer. Baton Pass serves no purpose to me, and Calm Mind doesn't exist in the old version.

About to fight the final trainer in Mt. Silver making notes as i go along. Using these 6
lvl 5 pichu (needed flash to get here and gonna use him to see what he starts with)
lvl 54 Flareon - Flamethrower, Mud Slap, Iron tail, Bite
lvl 56 Jolteon - Pin Missile, Thunder, Bite, Shadow ball
lvl 57 Espeon - Psychic, Psybeam, Zap Cannon, Morning Sun (didnt get hyperbeam yet)
lvl 55 Umbreon - Faint Attack, Psychic, Confuse Ray, Headbutt (Hidden power wasnt the best)
lvl 56 Vaporeon - Aurora Beam, Hydro Pump, Toxic, Acid Armor
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I just beat the Final Trainer "Red"
lvl 81 Pikachu
lvl 75 Snorlax
lvl 73 Espeon
lvl 77 Blastoise
lvl 77 Venasaur
lvl 77 Charizard

using only my 5 eevee's on the first try.
Pikachu:
This guy was a asshole, used 2 full restores on it when i had it at crit. Flareon was my choice for this guy. Two mudslaps made his thunder ineffective, and flamethrower packed a big enough punch to deal damage. Flareon won with half life left.
Snorlax:
I figured there would be a guy like him here which is where Vaporeon stepped up. First move was toxic, which causes increased poison damage each round, which is good for this big bastard. Using Vap's high health and acid armor he lasted 4 rounds before dying, which was enough to allow toxic to work its magic making him an easy target for Jolteon to land a thunder a polish him off.
Espeon:
Umbreon obviously was my choice. His swift couldn't match Faint Attack and Umbreon lived with a little more then half life.
Blastoise:
Big turtle versus Jolteon. Thunder landed a solid blow but his first move 1 hit KOed Jolteon. So i had to use Espeon and Zap Cannon to land the next blow which stunned him and but still hit me a 2nd hydro pump. Espeon live below half life though.
Charizard:
Was really hoping there wouldnt be one here but after seeing blastoise i knew him and venasuar couldn't be far behind. Kept Espeon out and landed a psybeam which fortunately confused him but didnt save espeon a flamethrower in the face. So i had Flareon and Umbreon Left. I used Flareon against better logic and used Iron Tail to kill it and lukyily confusion spared my Flareon.
Venasaur:
Last one left and two half way pokemon left... Luckily i still had a fire type but wasn't about to use it to start with incase there ws a surprise attack i didnt expect. So Umbreon went first, and confused it. Then i used Psychic once before it killed me to lower its special defence for my last flamethrower attack. luckily it charged for a solar beam giving Flareon the opening it needed to land the flamethrower attack and luckily knock off its last remaining 3/4s HP.

Using 5 eevee's well mixed and 20-25 levels beneath the final opponette's i kicked his ass using no items i the inventory when he had two full restores. All i have to say is all glory to Flareon the best Attack Strength pokemon and Espeon the best Spc. Attack pokemon not including legendary of course.

All hail the mighty Eevee linup!! ^_^

www.serebii.net

Yea, I figured that might be the case. The old section of the site I was using doesn't list TM's by
name, only their number. So I just went with what I had access too.

in sould do you get to use 3rd gen+ pokemon as well?

Yea. You can use pokemon from Ruby and up.

Today, CoroCoro have announced the starts for the next gen Pokemon games: Black & White.

http://serebii.net/index2.shtml

We have Tsutaja, the Grass Snake pokemon. Pokabu, the Fire Pig pokemon, and Mijumaru,
the Water Otter pokemon.

lol "Water Otter"

Pokabu all the way. I shall enslave the world with mah hawg.

i dont need to look at the link to know those are god aweful pokemon

<3 the pig.

Demon Eyes Kyo wrote:

i dont need to look at the link to know those are god aweful pokemon

Agreed.

It's gone downhill since the beginning.

Konstantine wrote:

Demon Eyes Kyo wrote:

i dont need to look at the link to know those are god aweful pokemon

Agreed.

It's gone downhill since the beginning.

http://www.last.fm/group/Bidoofs+Are+Sexy


Look the majesty that is Bidoof square in the eyes and tell me that...

Nay, Konny. Gold/Silver/Crystal were the best!